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		<title>By: Working on the F.A.R.M. &#124; ambler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Working on the F.A.R.M. &#124; ambler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] July, I justifiably blasted a book called Why Work Sucks &amp; What to Do About It. The authors, trying to sell more of their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Working on the F.A.R.M. &#124; Semplicity</title>
		<link>http://www.scottsemple.com/why-rowe-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Working on the F.A.R.M. &#124; Semplicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] July, I justifiably blasted a book called Why Work Sucks &amp; What to Do About It. The authors, trying to sell more of their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob P</title>
		<link>http://www.scottsemple.com/why-rowe-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what John was saying re: efficiency is that it is far more important to be effective than efficient. If a company is doing the wrong things efficiently, it is still doing the wrong things. I spent 6 years in the U.S. Navy, and became expert on doing the wrong things efficiently! It took me a few years in the commercial world to learn to do things effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what John was saying re: efficiency is that it is far more important to be effective than efficient. If a company is doing the wrong things efficiently, it is still doing the wrong things. I spent 6 years in the U.S. Navy, and became expert on doing the wrong things efficiently! It took me a few years in the commercial world to learn to do things effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Farhan Thawar</title>
		<link>http://www.scottsemple.com/why-rowe-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Farhan Thawar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Scott great post.  I actually really loved the book, and as a GTD fan, I also love David Allen.  However, efficiency and effectiveness are not the same thing and I&#039;m now more of a student of Tim Ferriss (4HWW).

I agree that the book could be more prescriptive, but I found it gave me the motivation to try and make this change in my company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scott great post.  I actually really loved the book, and as a GTD fan, I also love David Allen.  However, efficiency and effectiveness are not the same thing and I&#8217;m now more of a student of Tim Ferriss (4HWW).</p>
<p>I agree that the book could be more prescriptive, but I found it gave me the motivation to try and make this change in my company.</p>
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		<title>By: John Shaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Shaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

To continue the conversation about effective versus efficient, here is an article you may find interesting.

We should probably start another thread about that subject since it is not totally on focus with ROWE (although it definitely can be).

http://www.verasage.com/index.php/community/comments/pigs_productivity_and_purpose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>To continue the conversation about effective versus efficient, here is an article you may find interesting.</p>
<p>We should probably start another thread about that subject since it is not totally on focus with ROWE (although it definitely can be).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.verasage.com/index.php/community/comments/pigs_productivity_and_purpose" rel="nofollow">http://www.verasage.com/index.php/community/comments/pigs_productivity_and_purpose</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James: With respect to posting just a domain name, please let me know where you linked from and then I&#039;ll surf back and comment.

Also James, this is the third time you&#039;ve commented, and obviously you don&#039;t like my approach. REgsitering whyrowesucks.com was intended to provoke a reaction because my suspicion is that the book was intentionally  vague and any business model that deceives its potential customers rubs me the wrong way. Compare &lt;em&gt;WWS&lt;/em&gt; to anything by Seth Godin, and especially to &lt;em&gt;Getting Things Done&lt;/em&gt; by David Allen and you&#039;ll see the huge difference in what consultants produce when they are confident in the depth of their idea.

My approach obviously rubs you the wrong way too. My intent was to warn off people thinking about buying the book. If they want feel-good anecdotes, it&#039;s worth the money. If they want concrete ROWE implementation details, it isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James: With respect to posting just a domain name, please let me know where you linked from and then I&#8217;ll surf back and comment.</p>
<p>Also James, this is the third time you&#8217;ve commented, and obviously you don&#8217;t like my approach. REgsitering whyrowesucks.com was intended to provoke a reaction because my suspicion is that the book was intentionally  vague and any business model that deceives its potential customers rubs me the wrong way. Compare <em>WWS</em> to anything by Seth Godin, and especially to <em>Getting Things Done</em> by David Allen and you&#8217;ll see the huge difference in what consultants produce when they are confident in the depth of their idea.</p>
<p>My approach obviously rubs you the wrong way too. My intent was to warn off people thinking about buying the book. If they want feel-good anecdotes, it&#8217;s worth the money. If they want concrete ROWE implementation details, it isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mary: Thanks for your comments. Very well put. I&#039;m glad that someone found the book valuable. It was too general and bereft of detail for my liking, but it&#039;s good if it can cause some inspiration and get things moving.

I&#039;m thinking now that it probably depends on where people are at. If I were working in a big city cubicle-esque atmosphere, then I may have found the book more helpful, perhaps even just supportive. As someone who is looking to implement a ROWE in our office, the book, for me, just didn&#039;t cut it. And as a small business person, I&#039;m not going to shell out $899 for the kit or fly to Minneapolis for the seminar. I&#039;ll be developing our own ROWE system in the future and posting about it here.

Thanks again, Mary. All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mary: Thanks for your comments. Very well put. I&#8217;m glad that someone found the book valuable. It was too general and bereft of detail for my liking, but it&#8217;s good if it can cause some inspiration and get things moving.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking now that it probably depends on where people are at. If I were working in a big city cubicle-esque atmosphere, then I may have found the book more helpful, perhaps even just supportive. As someone who is looking to implement a ROWE in our office, the book, for me, just didn&#8217;t cut it. And as a small business person, I&#8217;m not going to shell out $899 for the kit or fly to Minneapolis for the seminar. I&#8217;ll be developing our own ROWE system in the future and posting about it here.</p>
<p>Thanks again, Mary. All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Scott, if you want to talk about feeling ripped off, how about someone plugging their web site all around the internet on other people&#039;s blogs without leaving a comment...

That&#039;s how I stumbled across your blog. I thought you were going to give me some insights as to why ROWE really doesn&#039;t work.

Instead, I got the rantings and ravings of some guy who employs the same shady marketing tactics as the very people he&#039;s criticizing.

Another shameless attempt at getting internet hits. It&#039;s interesting what some people will stoop to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Scott, if you want to talk about feeling ripped off, how about someone plugging their web site all around the internet on other people&#8217;s blogs without leaving a comment&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how I stumbled across your blog. I thought you were going to give me some insights as to why ROWE really doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Instead, I got the rantings and ravings of some guy who employs the same shady marketing tactics as the very people he&#8217;s criticizing.</p>
<p>Another shameless attempt at getting internet hits. It&#8217;s interesting what some people will stoop to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree!  The book explains, as you said, why work sucks.  The &quot;how to fix it part&quot; is by implementing ROWE.  So, the book does live up to its title.  I agree that it would have been nice to see more details on how to implement a ROWE or some of the metrics used to determine that it was successful at Best Buy, but I don&#039;t think that was the point.  The point of the book was to inspire people to think about changing their entire way of thinking about work.  The annecdotes were in there so that people in their own places of business would say to themselves, &quot;Yeah!  That happened to me!&quot; and then realize how wrongheaded our current work model is.  In short, the book was meant to inspire a revolution, not be a detailed implementation plan.  I for one, was inspired.

Additionally, your comments about workers being &quot;stand up&quot; individuals or liers, or having no character... that&#039;s all well and good.  I agree people should be honest, but you&#039;re not being honest if you think that pretty much every human in the history of work hasn&#039;t told a white lie at some time or another.  The system, being centered around face time and putting in hours, creates that animal.  Its like saying if only we can change human nature... If results were all that mattered, people&#039;s base instincts (self-preservation) wouldn&#039;t be as much of an issue.  Or at least, they wouldn&#039;t feel the need to lie about them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree!  The book explains, as you said, why work sucks.  The &#8220;how to fix it part&#8221; is by implementing ROWE.  So, the book does live up to its title.  I agree that it would have been nice to see more details on how to implement a ROWE or some of the metrics used to determine that it was successful at Best Buy, but I don&#8217;t think that was the point.  The point of the book was to inspire people to think about changing their entire way of thinking about work.  The annecdotes were in there so that people in their own places of business would say to themselves, &#8220;Yeah!  That happened to me!&#8221; and then realize how wrongheaded our current work model is.  In short, the book was meant to inspire a revolution, not be a detailed implementation plan.  I for one, was inspired.</p>
<p>Additionally, your comments about workers being &#8220;stand up&#8221; individuals or liers, or having no character&#8230; that&#8217;s all well and good.  I agree people should be honest, but you&#8217;re not being honest if you think that pretty much every human in the history of work hasn&#8217;t told a white lie at some time or another.  The system, being centered around face time and putting in hours, creates that animal.  Its like saying if only we can change human nature&#8230; If results were all that mattered, people&#8217;s base instincts (self-preservation) wouldn&#8217;t be as much of an issue.  Or at least, they wouldn&#8217;t feel the need to lie about them.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;UPDATE August 11th: &lt;/strong&gt;In stark contrast to Why Work Sucks, David Allen&#039;s book, Getting Things Done, reveals him to be a prime example of two things:
1) A consultant with a novel, genuine, BIG idea; and
2) A consultant confident enough in the scope of his idea that he knows publishing it will lead to more business, not less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>UPDATE August 11th: </strong>In stark contrast to Why Work Sucks, David Allen&#8217;s book, Getting Things Done, reveals him to be a prime example of two things:<br />
1) A consultant with a novel, genuine, BIG idea; and<br />
2) A consultant confident enough in the scope of his idea that he knows publishing it will lead to more business, not less.</p>
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